Christina Owen of Eleventh Hour Ministries on Hospice, Grief, Aging, Caregiving, and End-of-Life Support
A conversation with Christina Owen, founder of Eleventh Hour Ministries, about learning how to talk about death, support caregivers, understand the dying process, and help families navigate aging, grief, chronic illness, hospice care, and end-of-life transitions with more peace.
Making Space for Aging, Grief, Hospice, and End-of-Life Conversations
Talking about death is never easy, but what if learning how to talk about it could help us live better, age better, and support the people we love with more peace?
In this episode of the UpState Press Podcast, we sit down with Christina Owen, founder of Eleventh Hour Ministries, a donation-based nonprofit serving individuals and families navigating aging, chronic illness, hospice care, grief, and end-of-life transitions.
Christina has spent 27 years in healthcare, including the last several years as a hospice nurse. Through that experience, she noticed major gaps in the healthcare and hospice systems, especially when it comes to education, emotional support, caregiver guidance, and helping families understand what is normal during the dying process.
This conversation opens up a deeply important discussion about what it means to live well, age well, and die well. Christina shares how Eleventh Hour Ministries helps families make space for difficult conversations, understand end-of-life changes, support caregivers, and bring dignity, comfort, and community to people during one of life’s most sacred transitions.
We also talk about the future of Eleventh Hour Ministries, including their resource center in Greenville, South Carolina, the vision for The Evelyn, a social model hospice home for underserved individuals, and their mission to build a community around death education, grief support, and compassionate end-of-life care.
Full Transcript
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Introducing Eleventh Hour and Service Gaps
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Upstate Press podcast. Uh, today we're joined by one of my friends, Christina Owen. Just introduce yourself and introduce Eleventh Hour. Yeah. So, uh, my name is Christina Owen and I am a nurse, hospice nurse by trade. I've been in healthcareare for 27 years. Uh, and in the last six I have been doing hospice care. And so, um, during that time, I've identified gaps inside of service, uh, between health care and and hospice care, these places just get kind of busy for people and, uh, the patients. And so, it's not necessarily as patient centered as it used to be. M and so with this gap that I've identified, I wanted to form a nonprofit that kind of filled those gaps mostly of hospice care because that's that's our main um group of people that we serve is is those that they're that are at the end of life. Um but also uh those who are uh navigating chronic illnesses as well. And so Eleventh Hour consulting is is a is a nonprofit. We are a donation-based service um in order to serve those who are navigating life changes uh aging, death, and grief. Um and so it's kind of like the adult lifespan. We're kind of uh filling those gaps and and and helping people in that space, educating them, um supporting them, advocating for them. chronic illness, what to do with your medication, how to deal with maybe a terminal diagnosis, or how to transition into the end of life portion. That's a hard conversation to have. I would assume it is. It is. Uh most people uh that I that I come in contact with um certainly
Challenges and Positivity in End-of-Life Care
do not uh feel like they're at the end of their lives. Um and so it's kind of hard to approach that subject which is why my approach is to educate them about wellness. Um because each one of us can be well and you can be well at the end of life as well. So you know just kind of identifying these modifiable risk factors even at the end of life to kind of live better you know live and and die more comfortably at the end of life. And you said earlier you know you saw these gaps. Can you define some of that? So maybe people can see what you're talking about. Sure. Um so I'll kind of start with um the live well and age well aspect of it. Um, and so like say for example, you or I or maybe your parents go to the doctor's office and they do some tests and they give them a diagnosis and they give them medications and there's not really time inside of that doctor's office appointment for the nurse to even explain or the doctor to even explain that diagnosis or even really the medications. I found a lot of times that pharmacists are kind of educating about medications. Yeah. And for the majority of the time, people are not going home with with ongoing services like home health, right? And so they're stuck on their own trying to navigate these diagnosis and these medications and you know how lifestyle changes like what have I done to get myself here? Like they're trying to navigate that so that they can maximize their life, right? Mhm. I'm a nurse coach in that way that I'll come in and I'll do a full assessment on them and coach them in identifying what those modifiable risk factors may be, seeing what their goals are and how they want to feel better. If they want to feel better, then I kind of kind of guide them in that way too. Uh, educate them about the disease process again, how possibly that they would have gotten there with those modifiable risk factors. Educating about medications as well as that nurse coach that that would be filling that gap of healthcareare. Yeah. uh because it's really not about the people anymore. It's about let's let's make the money. Let's get them through. There's just so many of us now trying to go to the doctor's office. And it's not really the healthcareare's fault. It's just the nature of the managed care system. Now, when you get through live well, age well, and you're kind of transitioning towards that end of life situation, how hard is that to spark that conversation with a maybe a family member or a caretaker? Each circumstance is different. Yeah. You know, essentially, you just have to go into this in the situation and be present, listen to what everybody in the situation is talking about cuz most of the time, majority of the time, everybody's on a different page. Even though you can tell like each person really knows where that person is at, certainly the the the person who's at the end of their life, they certainly most of the time know that they're there, right? and they're looking to that third party person that's on the outside to kind of come in and soften that, get everybody on board so that that can happen. And so, you know, filling the gap of hospice care and the gap of hospice care is just that, right? You know, hospice is the same way as health care. They have got a quota to make like they they have to check the boxes, per se. And a lot of times it's not about what the family really needs and it's not really about what the fam the patient really needs. It's about just getting through that, giving them just the bare minimum what they can get them and then getting out of there. So that's kind of opened up again myself being in these circumstance, right? And that's why I keep going back. It's really not anything that's intentional or malicious. It's just like we're doing it like we got to get through it, right? that kind of opened up the spot for me to really serve the individual and serve the person. Go in, listen to them, be present, and find out what that need was and feel and feel that need. And so within the hospice care system, um that gap looks a lot like most people when they come on hospice, they think hospice is going to be there 24/7 and hospice is not there 24/7. There's a lack of education around what death and dying is. So again, they're searching for resources to find out about the dying process. Is this normal? Is this not normal? What does this particular, you know, disease process look like at the end of life? Medications also, that's a that's something that needs to be educated on. And as a nurse coach, I can do that inside the space. Just showing them how to manage and decline. You say something all the time. You always say make space for insert thing. Make space for them. make space for this transition, make space for the plan. How did you come to that mindset on how to make space for each of these phases? So, just, you know, again, just identifying that there's no time, right? There's no time inside of the system to really listen to the person, listen to the family, to allow them to be in a place where they are identifying their need. You know, I'm not going in with any agenda about what I want to talk to them about because every circumstance is different. So, if I went in there and I I had in my mind, okay, well, I know this is cancer or I know this is, you know, uh Alzheimer's or I know, you know, whatever, Parkinson's, whatever. If I go in and I have a preconceived notion about what I'm going to talk to them about, it's always going to fail. Um, every time, you know, and and I learned the hard way, you know, when I go in, I try to talk to them about what I want to talk to them about because every everybody's different. Yeah. You can't build a template here. Yeah. No, everybody has a different need and everybody needs to be educated on a different level. Sometimes you really got to start at the basics, you know, and and some people understand the basics and they need to know a little bit more and but really just plan off, you know, holding that space, just being there for them and and seeing what they need, you know, what is their need, death, the end of life, [snorts] that process. When you experience that, it's a lot more than what we can give it credit for. It's a lot more than we can like put words to. It's a growing experience every time. And you're right, it's different entirely every time. I don't think people realize the positivity and the emotional connection
Positive Experiences in End-of-Life Transitions
through this. Can you kind of walk me through a little bit of some of the times when there's been just an overwhelming uh swell of of positivity through the the end of life transition? I would really have to say that most circumstances that I come across end up being a positive. dying as you think, you know, that wouldn't be positive or or or it's a sad time or it's very heavy or you know, whatever. But for the most part, people just need that support and they need that education and they need that person that holds their hand. And I practice in a way that really I I can't think of any other time that people just they they feel like it's a positive time, you know, when they get that support and they get that education that they need, it kind of turns into a positive um for them, you know, when they have that support, you know, I mean, their their loved one is dying, but it makes it a lot easier when you have when you have that support. sitting alone in a dark room just facing this doesn't seem like the way to do it. I feel like a lot of decisions are are made incorrectly. I feel like a lot of maybe just maybe sometimes just being able to vocalize things to a person who's been there before. Nobody really knows about death. Even the the health care community, even the hospice care community, they have a very difficult time talking about death, too. People don't know what the dying process looks like. They think that something's wrong with the person. You're trying to cure something that's not curable. Um the dying process is absolutely normal. People enter this life in a particular way and it's common across the board, right? And people leave this life in a very common way across the board. And so dying is dying can be taught to people in a way um that you can be prepared. You know, ours [clears throat] more, you know, remember your death and and that's a very good concept for for everyone, you know, from from a very young age, you know, and older. If we can kind of normalize that, you know, just to remember your death and and that can help you live better. You know, you can live well, you can age well and you can die well and and you know, just remembering that you're going to die and taking each moment as it is and and doing your best with everything you do. You know, I think we get in a rat race and we just can't be present in anything anymore. What are some of the struggles with getting people to see some of the pieces that are normal? Eating is the hardest one. Yeah, eating is the hardest one. Probably followed by, well, they're sleeping all the time and they need to get up and they need to move and and and and people are not wrong when they say, "Oh, well, they need to eat or or or they need to get up and they need to move." They're not wrong if they weren't in the dying process. everyone who is approaching the end of life. We don't enter this life eating and we don't leave this life eating and drinking. And when we want to push that and most people do because again they don't want to to give up and they they want their family member to live. And there's something that I always tell people not just the person but the the community that's taking care of them is listen to your body. Mhm. Your body inherently knows how to take care of itself. Even at the end, if you listen, it will be a far more comfortable process for you. Right? So, if we try to continue to force ourselves to eat and I've seen it many many times where the family wants to force food and drink or or the patient wants to continue to force food and drink. um that is not a very comfortable situation and it's not a very pretty situation. And so just just encouraging them to listen to their bodies is very very important. And not eating at the end of life is normal. Not drinking at the end of life is normal. Sleeping all the time at the end of life is normal. There's normal body processes that take place. And if you listen and you allow those things to take place, death is far more comfortable for those people. [clears throat] But you got to have somebody that helps you through that. Yeah. I mean, because it's not normal if you're healthy. It it evokes emotional responses um to normal situations in insane responses at certain points to very normal situations because death itself feels like an insane situation, but it's not. It's very normal. We spend so much time trying to fend it off as long as possible. There's a there's always a moment where you realize this is happening right now. This is inevitable. And then you pay attention to the nuance of it. It's been varying degrees of people falling asleep. It's been varying uh time frames of people speaking to dead relatives. It's almost a signifier if I'm being honest with you. There was a there was a situation with with my grandmother where like people who wouldn't have normally been there together were all there. We're sitting in the kitchen. We're having a conversation while my grandmother was sleeping and we had like a baby monitor and we heard her speaking to my grandfather who had passed away. As soon as we heard those words come out of her mouth, as soon as we heard her having that conversation, um, it made it real and everybody just kind of form fitted to it. Is that something you find that's that's pretty common, speaking to deceased relatives and eventually just going to sleep? Yes, it's uh seeing seeing and hearing things that we don't see and hear is very common. And that's the way that I put it. A lot of people like to use the word hallucinations. I don't like to use that word. Um I've set so closely with death um over the last six years doing over hundred deaths per year. Um people see and hear things we don't see and hear. Yeah. Life and death is so close, right? And that's really what I've kind of come to the reality that that life and death is very very close. And so yes, certainly people are seeing and hearing things that we don't see in here because it's just that close. Um and I would say the majority of people who are at the end of life are seeing little children, for example, or they see, you know, the angels in the room. you know, they just see people, you know, I've heard them say, "Well, there's just a bunch of people. Like, I don't really know who they are, but they're people, and they're not very scared of that, right? Um, they see people that they do know who've already moved on." So, it's just like different for everybody, you know, what they're actually seeing, but for the most part, it's someone that they've loved and that they trust. And and typically that's that person that's there to get them like you said, you know, like your granddad was there to get your grandmother, you know, she trusted him. She was ready to go. And uh and yeah, so so it's very common.
Personal Motivation and Caregiver Identity
What are some of the things that people can can know about you to kind of get an idea of the type of person that is that's hanging out with them, that's kind of walking them through it? Like what is it that calls you to this? So that one is really always hard for me to answer and I don't know why that is. Right. Um I just feel like I was born to to be in be a helper, you know, to to be a servant, you know. I feel like it's just part of my being to to do that, you know, starting from taking care of my sisters to, you know, taking care of to taking care of others throughout health my healthcareareer. You know, I've always been just that person. And and uh as far as like just who I am and why what drives me to do it, like I just really feel like it's who I am, you know? I feel like I'm I'm just that giver. I'm that caregiver, you know. I know you can relate to that because uh you know, you're just that one that that people call on, you know, and and so um I do it because I love it. You know, I I love being a servant of others. Um and and yeah, I mean that's why I do it. You know, it gives me my purpose. It it fills my cup. Um you know, I like to do things on my own, too. But but for the most part, it's my purpose in this life to to love and serve others as they're navigating whatever challenge it is. You know, my friends can tell you, you know, I'll take the shirt off my back. It's it's a family trait. It's an Owen trait. you know, those who know the Owens, they they certainly know that we we take the the shirt off our back for you if that's what we need to do. And so so it's why I do it. It's it's just who I am. No, I don't think a lot of people understand or or even recognize that there are people out there who do this.
How to Connect with Eleventh Hour
What's a good time to start jumping in and saying, "Hey, I kind of need to start planning this out. Let's let's get some let's get some help." Now and before. There you go. Now and before. You know, I I I also do Five Wishes, which is an advanced care planning. And and I like to tell people if you're 18 years and older, you should be planning for your death. Uh because anything can happen at any time. And so now and before, you know, if you're thinking about it and you know, you've got someone and it's starting to be challenging, look for that person now, [clears throat] you know, look for that person who's navigated several different uh uh situations. um and and just ask questions and it's about that person, you know, and so that's what I would encourage them to do is always look, always ask, be be curious about things and and look. Now, there has to be an unburdening moment where you see them say, "Oh, the help is this is actually really helping me." What does that say to you and and and where do you steer from there when finally they kind of recognize? Do you just lean heavy into education? Do you look for areas that they might need to boost up on? I follow their lead. I really do. And and it's different in every circumstance, you know, once they're kind of like, okay. And then it just flows from them really. Mhm. You know, it's not anything that I have to kind of direct or anything like that. Everybody is different. And once they're like, okay, all right. And then they get that part and then and then they get even more curious, right? they get even more inquisitive about this thing or that. Um and and then like you say, the burden kind of lifts on they once they see, okay, this person is here and they can definitely help us. Um I just lean into them, you know, more than anything. I don't lean into anything in particular. I just lean into what they're what they need and what they're asking and it's different in different situations. How would you describe the process, what somebody needs to do to reach out to Eleventh Hour? So, we have we have a website. We have a Facebook page as well. Um, we're going to have an open house coming up. Um, we do we do have a resource center. So, we we've got a brand new office on [clears throat] the corner of Maine and Stone. So, it's kind of a centralized location within the Greenville area. Um, so just reaching out by phone, by email, however they want to reach out, just reach out. I'm here and the team that's behind me, we're here to just truly love and serve you.
Meeting Clients and Serving Underserved Populations
We're meeting you where you are. you know, we we are a um donation-based service, which means that we don't have contracts. We don't bill people. Um it's need-based. Um it's donation-based. Um it's not like anything. It's very novel and it's very unique. Um it's truly a niche ministry. We're truly here to love and serve people. Um and just reach out, you know, just reach out. We might can help you. um you we might not but more times than not we're helping people. We sit here and we talk about all this stuff with you know caretakers and families and things of that nature but I think a lot of people don't understand that there are entire large factions and groups of people without caretakers or family members or even homes. Yes. Um the there's the unhoused, there's people with addictions. there's there's all of these situations that kind of take them outside of that little bubble that's already hard enough to navigate.
The Evelyn Social Model Hospice Home
Now, we remove all of these support systems. Um, what are some of the goals and and initiatives that that Eleventh Hour has for for people in those circumstances? Yeah. And so, one of one of my passions is those who are underserved. Um, and those people are those that don't have able-bodied caregivers, no caregivers at all. Um, unsafe houses, poor psychosocial situations because of addictions as you say. Um, so th those are some of my passions. And we do have um a project coming up. It's a it's a really big project and it was one of our main projects and where we were kind of, you know, leaning into initially is the Evelyn. So the Evelyn is a a social model hospice home and and I've had people before say well you know we we have hospice homes right so so what are you talking about and so yeah we do have hospice homes but those are medical model hospice homes and and those homes um in order to in South Carolina in order to have your loved one admitted to that home at the end of their life they have to have a medical need um so so you can't just be admitted to those homes Right. And so the social model hospice home, we we don't have any criteria for admission. Um and so it it's a home that we would open up for those who are have a lack of a caregiver [clears throat] altogether. Um unsafe house, those without an able-bodied caregiver, because the reality is is if you're older, your your spouse is probably older too, and they're not very able-bodied either. Um, again, those who who have psychosocial situations because of their past or, you know, addictions or mental illness or things like that. And so that this home is going to serve those underserved people. That's it. It's a very ambitious goal. It's kind of the essence of what nonprofits are are built on.
Innovative Community Resources and Events
Let's build a community and then let's build a centerpoint place. Yes. For this community to rally around. Yes. Well, you know, as you as you mentioned, uh we're really just forming community right now. You know, we're a fairly new nonprofit. We were founded in uh July of 2024, so we're 15. We're we're very new. We're we're months, you know, in um and so we're forming that community like you said to to kind of go into the direction of opening the Evelyn home, having that community, ha having this office space, too. So that so that's going to be one of our uh upcoming projects is we're gonna have that touchable resource center, right? Yeah. Uh so we've got books on death there. Um it's going to have people who were who are there who can talk to whoever walks in the door uh about death and dying. Um and so that that's one of our projects. Well, something is very new that I don't even think I've mentioned to you yet is uh is death over drafts. It's kind of uh would be held in breweries. What a better way to breach that conversation. Yes. Than, you know, with with maybe an IPA in your hand. That's exactly correct. [laughter] That's exactly correct. So, yeah, we've got a lot there's a lot of things on the burner right now. Um it's just a matter
Building Partnerships and Recruiting Volunteers
of the avenue um um and how we're going to approach it, you know, because people don't want to talk about death. No, they don't. I mean, even in this conversation, there's so much that we leave on the table here, and it's I hope we do a follow-up situation because there's there's really a ton here. Um, it's a lot to unpack. It is. But also, there's so much stuff that plays into this. Like, just in general, for me, witnessing what what you're doing. Even if you were setting out just purely to educate people, it's enough. Yeah. Like it I've gone through this like four or five times, you know? Um, and the craziest part is I would go back for that resource every time. People need to have those resources. It's not easy for you guys to like say we're this is what we're going to do. We're going to have a place where people can come talk about death and dying. Like that's not an easy decision to make. Yeah. Um but then you you just take it further and then you plan to take it even further. Yeah. How is it that you that you find people that align with what you're doing to kind of help you out because it does take a lot. It takes a lot of pieces. I know you're the founder and we've talked about this many times. You wear many hats and you wear very tall mud boots. How is it that you find people that align with you? I feel like uh divine intervention that that that's the only thing that I can tell you. When when we started this nonprofit, um some of my founding board members and I, it was just like, you know, whatever whatever he has for us is going to come to us. And it's really just as complex as it is and as hard as it's hard as hard as it's to unpack, like everything that we're doing, it's just truly been that easy. Like I feel like it's just been easy. The right people at the right time and that that's really what's kind of what the way that it happens. You know, I've actually met some of some of your board members. There's so much that people bring to the table that is independently them. It is all them and you have to have these you have to have these shades to create the contrast. You have to have all of these pieces in place. Obviously, you've discussed this with me before and I think people would need to know you're you're still looking for those people that want to get involved with this that maybe if somebody's watching or listening to this and they they realize like I am actually very comfortable in these situations reach out how do they reach out to you
Processing Grief and Personal Reflections
and tell you that like hey I want to be a part of this I'm so approachable like I I'm just an approachable individual my phone is on 24/7 um for the families that I serve for the patients that I serve for for my friends and so I would say just reach out you know if you're passionate about um end of life if you're passionate about being well, if you're passionate about being part of a community. Um, if you feel like something interests you, if you want to volunteer, that's cool. I got volunteers, too, that that love to do this. Um, one of my volunteers, she she reached out on Facebook and she's like, "Look, I'm just I'm comfortable with my own death, so let me help." And she's been just so key in those things that we've done. You know, we've we've done natural burials, we've done memorials, we've done things like that. And so those people just reach out if you think that you're comfortable with it. Um you're part of Eleventh Hour. You know, everybody is part of Eleventh Hour if you so choose to be. And so like building that community up like even if you get a handful of people express how that could assist multiple people come to the end of their life in a great way. Just being in service like there's not very many people who are doing what we're doing. It's this is a very novel concept in South Carolina. um not in other not not in other states, you know, out west that you know, they're doing this and you know, they call them end of life doulas or death doulas, you know, and and so it's just so novel in South Carolina, we got to approach it in c a certain way, you know, and and so yeah, I mean, the more people that we have to volunteer or the more people that we have who are doing their own thing, you know, because there's other death doulas, end of life doulas in South Carolina, in the upstate in general, and we collaborate with those guys, too. Um, so if they're interested, if people are interested, it helps people in a way that you can hold space, that you can educate about the dying process. Um, and just allow those families to have a resource that they would not otherwise have. Um, it it would impact them so greatly. Yeah, it's such a deeply personal thing. Um, not just with the people who are passing, but with the family. How do you file this away personally? I think I
Education, Training, and Community Outreach
think that's probably a thing that makes it hard to talk about is I don't think people like to dive into personally what it does to you for you. Yeah. How do you file these things away? Are these little flowers in a garden of happy memories or are these things that you have to personally kind of move on from after? Uh I I think that doing this kind of work again I'm just genuinely and authentically myself. I think that I was born to to serve and and you know to bring out that in the very beginning it when I started working with true end of life hospice work um it was initially quite hard because you know you're losing people hand over fist you know over hundreds of deaths a year over a hundred deaths of a year you do that math and that's a lot of people right um so how do I handle my grief I think that's the true question, right? I remember people, you know, so so I would say in the very beginning it was hard and it was like, oh, I'm having another loss and it's another loss and it's another loss. But I don't really see losing people as a loss. I see lo see losing people from this physical world them moving to a different space. I still talk to people as as odd as that is now they're not talking back to me. So, let's let's don't go into the to that space, but but yeah, I still they're still with me. They're still in my heart. Um I have their memories with me. And uh and so that's how I do it, you know? I mean, it's not it's not really a loss. Mhm. It's not really a loss. They're just not physically in front of me anymore. They're still in my heart. I encourage the people who who I'm guiding during grief is don't don't stop talking to those people. Yeah. You know, when you stop talking to those people, that's when those people are going to die. You have to keep their memory alive somehow. Absolutely. Even even the the process of end of life, I mean, that ends up being one of the things I remember most about the people. Um, and you can talk about that situation just as you can say, do you remember the time when I was 12 and they took me to the zoo? It's just as easy that you can say you remember that joke they made when they you know when it was there's a lot of honesty in the situation you know at upstate press I do a lot of interviews with a lot of businesses and we talk about all these things and um there was one such interview request it was for an end of life doula and that's actually it's through layers and layers that's how I found you guys and I realized on
Rebranding to Eleventh Hour Ministries
top of all this there's so many of us out there who who are interested in this and and talk about this like you said you work with other people in the in the realm. There are resources there. Yeah. And so people need to reach out and uh you know make use of them, right? Find out maybe it's not such a scary situation after all. It is it is a natural situation. Yeah. And if people are comfortable with it and you know they want to learn more, you know, that's that's another thing that that we have in our in our pocket is there's already a curriculum together um that we would teach others how to um do what we do. I'm a doula trainer. I'm a death doula trainer. Um and so other people are charging thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to train people to do that. Like that's not where I want to be. Like I I think the more of us we have, the more we give the information who are comfortable doing it, the better off our community is going to be. It's more about building community for me. Um and so yeah, if people are interested, I would love to get a group together. I'd love to give the get the initial group together and go over this curriculum that I have put together. So, you know, my aunt actually runs a home care business. Do you find that people from from things like that, hospices and and home care? Do you find that they kind of get it because they can see the limitations or or is it just kind of anybody's game? Uh, I really think it's anybody's game, you know? I I think it's individualized. It's about the person. You know, some people are just collecting a paycheck. Let's just be real. Yeah, that's true. you know. So, I think it's anybody's game really. I mean, it's anybody's game. It's Eddie's game, you know. It's Jerry's game. It's Duncan's game. Yeah. You know, I love the thought of it of the community portion of it. Yeah. Um I really do. I think the deeper that we get into these types of conversations, people will see what kind of community that actually is. I appreciate you coming here and having this type of conversation with us today. Um we'd love to have you back to kind of elaborate on it more. But Eleventh Hour I So you had told me it used to be Eleventh Hour
Collaboration and Future Directions
Consulting and Ministries and you guys are going through a little bit of a change. So what's what is it called now? Yep. So originally uh our name was Eleventh Hour Consulting just just outright. Um and so we made the decision as a board to change that name to Eleventh Hour ministries instead. Um it really just truly aligns with what we're doing more than consulting. Uh it's more of a ministry. I mean, love and service is a ministry. It's not a consulting service. And so, we are now Eleventh Hour ministries. It's official. Uh we're changed on South Carolina uh public charities. You know, there's a charities website for South Carolina. So, I just got that changed there. So, now we're Eleventh Hour ministries. Now, before we go, I do want to say there are a lot of uh other nonprofits who, you know, have funds to give, have bodies to give, things like that. Um, is this something that you encourage working with other nonprofits, working with local businesses? Um, Eleventh Hour is open to work working with anyone who shares the same mission as us. Um, and it's it's about community building. At the end of the day, it's about community building and that's it. Making friends with other people. Uh, we do life together. You can't do life alone. Um, and so collaboration is amazing. So, if any anybody that's interested, we we would love to work with with anyone. Thank y'all for working with us. Hey, we love it. Like, this is this is kind of the whole point of it all. Like, I love everything that you're doing. Um, as I talk to the guys with Upstate, um, they're starting to see like, oh, okay, I see why you care so much about this and I can see it's people like you that put their entire heart and soul into it. Um, and and make it a part of themselves and and kind of make this stuff happen. So, yeah. Uh, just let everybody know where they can find you, okay? Uh, houreleven.org. Um, and on Facebook, we're Eleventh Hour consulting still. So, I got to navigate that Facebook page. And so, look for Eleventh Hour Consulting initially. Um, but Eleventh Hour Ministries is where we we will turn on Facebook. Uh, and then in the show notes, if you want to stick my phone number there, that's just fine, too. Again, I'm available 247. I'm I'm I'm a very open and approachable person. So, that's true. I can attest to this. Yeah, I can attest to this. All right. Well, thank you for joining us today and we look forward to talking to you again, y'all. Thank you for having us.
